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 11-26-2003, 22:03 Post: 69743
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 Anyone have experience with these cartridges

"Her rifle does not shoot them good, fact is the hole is oblong at 50yds"

I think those cartridges have a habit of tumbling and doing that. That's why they are no fun to get shot with So Sad

They are still pretty accurate anyway.






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 11-26-2003, 23:39 Post: 69750
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Obviously range isn't an issue as you were "throwing things" at them...unless thta is ya' got a real good arm there, ChiefWink yeah right With that in mind I was going to suggest the slugs as well. I guess the "discreet" part and not distrurbing the neihbors is out the window Smile

I you want to insure zero ricochet potential you could get one of those defense or frangible slugs. They will break up if you miss but will surely take care of the dog if you don't miss. No overpenetration either.

Several manufacturers make them but some are law enforcemnt only, but I am sure one of your buddies might loan you a few Smile I don't think they are technically illegal for you to posess just that the manufacturers only offer them toe LE. More of marketing hype than anything if you ask me. Winchester has the Ranger line marketed this way. Some of their Ranger items are the same as the "consumer" items"???? Go figure.

The one that looks interesting is a door breaching round made by PMC. It is also effective as a shor range defensive round and shoots a decent 2" group at 25 yards. It consists of a thin plastic slug filled with powdered metal travelling 1500+ FPS. It's even approved by the Navy Smile

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 11-27-2003, 19:57 Post: 69807
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Yes, there are non-lethal rounds you can buy. I have never used them or worked in a department that uses them.

What's going on over there, are you being overrun Chief? Smile You gotta love all these people letting pets go for others to deal with So Sad Now there might be a use for non-lethal measures!

I understand what you're going through we have visitors but they don't stay. I have several cats who visit. The one cat we "adopted" stays in the barn, he is very territorial so the visitors don't stay for long. It works out.

As far as dogs they avoid my bulldog for some reason. Too ugly or smelly I suppose Smile It must be something with my dog because the neighbors have dog and bear visits to there garbage regularly but I have no problems. The grabage is right next toit eh dog pen, amybe the don't wnat to go there????


Maybe you need to adopt a mean cat and an ugly, smelly dog..it works for me.

P.S. The coyote has not returned since I ran him off.






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